So there’s this story in EVE Online about a guy who said stupid things while drunk under the influence of his own ideas and a crowd that tends to support his viewpoints.
If you’re wondering who I’m referring to, I’m talking about Tobold at the moment.
Nope, not that Mittani fellow. Tobold.
The basis for his consternation lies in the events of Mittanigate, wherein a CSM player (and Council of Stellar Management) chairman named The Mittani seemingly encouraged other people into goading someone to commit suicide.
The fallout of this event was The Mittani (Alexander Gianturco)’s resignation from the CSM, the revocation of his CSM position in its entirety and a 30-day banning for The Mittani’s account (not sure if this still holds) a day later, a boatload of people going nuts everywhere regarding bullying and other issues in relation to this particular event, The Mittani (both character and person) refocusing his efforts on pretty much creating havoc across New Eden, and Tobold saying stuff again.
Now, I read Tobold’s writings, and I can see where he’s coming from, but sometimes, I think he’s preachier than I am, without trying to see what everyone’s viewpoint is on a particular issue.
I asked Syncaine to help me get more insight into everything by providing me with clarifications regarding what happened, minus his personal commentary. From what he’s told me, and from videos I’ve seen and posts I’ve read, all that’s happened is that a drunk guy (The Mittani) decided to be a complete tool and tried to get other people to be a dick to someone. The other guy didn’t quite care, and according to Syncaine, said recipient of the bullying in this case was even joking that maybe he should kill himself to get Mittani in trouble.
Dissecting the scenario, all I can see are the following:
1. The Mittani decides to be drunk and stupid.
2. People in the EVE community decide to act stupid as well.
3. Outrage spreads over the occurrence of stupidity.
4. Recipient of bullying doesn’t give a damn, and also says something stupid that makes light of suicide.
5. Reports that aren’t updated exacerbate matters.
6. Tobold says Syncaine and The Mittani are evil, which is stupid, because Syncaine is about as opinionated and well-spoken as Tobold and had his words taken out of context, and the Mittani, as we’ve discussed earlier, is stupid.
7. Errybody in the club getting tipsy stupid.
What does this lead to? Simple… People are idiots. They can be mean-spirited and follow the flow of discussion to an idiotic conclusion. Worse still, they can choose to follow an agenda of their own that misrepresents ideas to further their thoughts.
Whether that last bit refers to Gianturco’s campaign, Tobold’s writings, Syncaine’s writings, or my writings… why not just lump them all into a ball of stupid, call it a day, and focus our efforts on just being nicer people to everyone in general instead of being stupid dicks online.
That’d be the smartest outcome out all this, I’d reckon.
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Big fan of your #7.
I don’t know how to react to the Mittani thing really. I watched the fanfest video and in its entirety, the comment is just an extremely small part at the end of a long “fest”. The outrage is quite ridiculous imo. The person “being bullied” in question is a grown man, how do you bully an adult? A grown man doesn’t kill himself because people weren’t nice to him in a video game, if he kills himself it is because of a lot of other things going on in his life that the internet is not aware of.
So it comes down to, is it okay to make jokes about suicide? Yes, it is okay to make a joke about anything. Someone may not agree with that, but we have got to stop these knee-jerk overreactions where everyone is so used to looking for a victim in anything, and then they want to be a hero, a cause for good. Let’s not ask the guy we are defending if he wants us to, lets just do it because he has to think the same way we do (when we overreact).
So now CCP is taking action against Mittani, why? It isn’t because they are upset with what he did, they were there at the fanfest! They could’ve done or said something about it then, yet they didn’t. It wasn’t until internet hero warriors rallied to the defense of a supposed victim (grown man)and expressed their opinion.
blah blah blah tl;dr, shit is stupid mang
Thank you for adding even more context.